A little while back I saw some MP 580 smokeless powder on American Reloadingโs site and it was labeled as โSimilar to IMR 4451โ. The reference data for it was for a 243 Winchester with a 100gr SP. I figured I would give it a try since the IMR Enduron powders are well regarded. At ~$200/8lbs, why not?
I looked up a starting load of 4451 with a 80gr Hornady CX. It was listed in one of the Hodgdon manuals in the app. Itโs probably obvious that I like monolithic bullets. I haven’t really tried the CX line yet, but I like Barnes bullets. I decided to try the CX since they had a box at the store. I settled on a starting load of 38.7gr and loaded up five of them to see where they end up with the velocity. I also ran the load through QuickLOAD to get an idea of what I could expect if the MP 580 was similar IMR 4451. Looked like 38.7 should get me 2,761 fps from the 18″ barrel of a Ruger American All Weather Compact, same rifle as the 308 in this post, but in 243.
Here is what I got with the first five. It was much lower than expected.
| Shot 1 | Shot 2 | Shot 3 | Shot 4 | Shot 5 | AVG | ES | SD |
| 2525 | 2596 | 2568 | 2570 | 2551 | 2562 | 71 | 26.2 |
I ran the propellant table with some tweaks to set the grains and velocity to see what looked close to these results. H4350 looked pretty close to the average, so I loaded up a pressure test series at 0.5gr increments starting with 38.2 and up to 43.7. The first shot was close to 0″ horizontally and about 2″ left. The next nine were all in about a 2.5″ group about 3.5″ above 0″ and the group was centered pretty well on the 0″ vertical. The 10th was high and about 3″ to the left. I didn’t get heavy bolt lift, ejector swipes, or flattened primers. I measured the case webs before and after and they were all pretty close to the same starting size and they were all about 0.002 larger after firing. The last few were about 0.0025 larger, so I think I was getting close. Here are the results compared to QL estimates for H4350.
| Grains | Result | QuickLOAD | QL – Result Diff. |
| 38.7 | 2525 | 2608 | 83 |
| 39.2 | 2612 | 2642 | 30 |
| 39.7 | 2650 | 2677 | 27 |
| 40.2 | 2666 | 2711 | 45 |
| 40.7 | 2724 | 2746 | 22 |
| 41.2 | 2814 | 2780 | -34 |
| 41.7 | 2836 | 2815 | -21 |
| 42.2 | 2850 | 2850 | 0 |
| 42.7 | 2831 | 2884 | 53 |
| 43.2 | 2927 | 2919 | -8 |
| 43.7 | 2921 | 2954 | 33 |
Here is that data turned into a chart.
So with this, I will probably try and keep going up a bit, and see if I hit pressure, which should really be around 44.7 or maybe 45.2, which according to QuickLOAD will be about 101% case fill. Ever so slightly compressed. Will see how it shoots, and might get lucky. Will also see about getting some heavier bullets just to compare ballistics, and will try this powder in something else that likes H4350 and see how the numbers line up.